Tuesday, March 27, 2007

More Neutral Spine Issues

This is a very compelling article on T-Nation. Read THIS and compare it to Dr. Jolie Bookspan's article below about squatting. Discussion please!

5 comments:

Mark Reifkind said...

nice rip off of paul cheks course Scientifc Back training. He gives passing credit to Chek but the guts of the article are pure chek! good info nonetheless.

Sifter said...

SO is snapping your hips forward into posterior tilt when performing swings setting you up for lumbar flexion under load and hern. discs? Or is it protective a la Pavel? Same with Deadlift lockout. Confused.

Mark Reifkind said...

snapping your hips ala pavel does NOT require losing the lumbar curve.the hips can rotate without the lumbars flattening.

Ad said...

The Robertson article is very good. I think the point he makes is that not only a neutral spine but also neutral hip tilt is involved in good posture.

Regarding the Healthline.com article on squatting, I am afraid it is simplistic in that it only considers the problem of excessive anterior tilt and hyperlordosis.

The truth is few people will actually have this problem when squatting with the instruction "stick your butt out," for most people that instruction will help prevent tail tucking due to tight hamstrings and dormant glutes.

You do see this anterior tilt at the hips with young, athletic women though, especially if they have some gymnastics background. Look at some of the women squatting on crossfit.com for some examples.

Sifter said...

AD...

I think Jolie Bookspan was saying you should not stick your butt out, though, when squatting, but rather tuck lightly and squat more vertically.

Originally, when I tried Face the Wall squats, I mistakenly tucked my tail after viewing some chilel. qi gong site, and my sacroiliac flared up big-time. Stick out the butt a la Pavel and going only to parallel doesn't aggravate the SI. I understand Jolie's concept, but can't imagine applying it when lifting anything other than feather weights.